Tribunal had a motive for murder of Milosevic

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TRIBUNAL HAD A MOTIVE FOR MURDER



Even when it ever would be evidenced beyond doubt that Milosevic was not murdered as a result of direct action, this still doesn't mean that there was not committed homicide against him.



Milosevic was, from the beginning in his cell in the Hague, a person affected by severe health problems. So it was, for malignant forces, easy to forecast that, in order to get rid of him, no direct attempts on his life, which always may bring about the risk of leaving traces, were necesssary. And that a succession of secret actions, direcly aimed at further undermining of his health were sufficient to make sure that he, sooner or later, was bound to succumb. Certainly if such secret actions against his health were conducted in combination with malicious medical negligence and the extreme stress put upon him by the working conditions and the expediciency the tribunal forced him to.     



Therefore, such a more sophisticated course of action would be far preferable to blunt direct liquidation.



Convincing evidence of deliberately undermining Milosevic's health



And there are, though there is no clue to direct murder, already at the moment quite a lot of convincing indications that Milosevic was killed in this indirect way.



The specific element of his, from the beginning, medical negligence is a already a well-document story, just like the enormous pressure put upon him by the tribunal by its devasteting claims for expeciency.

These subjects require a separate description.



This article limits itself to some serious indications that Milosevic's health was deliberately undermined by covert direct actions. At least during a number of crucial episodes of his process. Episodes in which there have been persistent efforts to 'switch him of', to silence him.  

Unfortunately for the tribunal, periods of increased attempts to 'switch him of'  turn out, viewed more closely, to coincide with a number of very suspect events discussed here below.

 

A failure for NATO was threatening



But first the following must be said.

In a climate where loyal friends of the tribunal have been given the monopoly over reporting in western countries, it is no wonder that an image has been created of the Milosevic trial that is completely alien to the reality.



In the discussions I have had with different people

about Milosevic's death, the prevalent opinion was that no matter how valiant this man´s resistance was, or alternatively, how impudent, the evidence against him was growing in a trial that went on for years and that he was a man who felt the ground sinking under his feet, now that the trial was drawing to a close. And who was thus ripe for some desperate act.

This cherished image thus elicits its own psychologisms.



So this image is dominant in western public opinion, resulting from persistent biased information, portrayed by bootlickers of the tribunal, passing themselves disguised as ´reporters´.



The reality concerning the Milosevic trial was diametrically opposite. A reality which can also be verified by everyone. 

All one needs is to take the trouble of reading the trial transcripts.



It is nothing short of an objective and hard fact that it was not Milosevic who was under attack in his trial but the tribunal. And not only ´today´.

When the prosecutors had to conclude their evidence after years, prominent Dutch newspapers, like the Volkskrant titled its article ´No conclusive evidence against Slobodan Milosevic´ (VK 26 February 2004), and the NRC even chose the title: ´Case against Milosevic 'falls apart’´ (NRC 28 February 2004).



This, already at that moment, matter of fact is, through the last years, clearly deeply sunk in collective subconsciousness, apparently as a result of the stereotyping, increasingly hammered by the tribunal protagonists that the tribunal was mercilessly busy nailing down the rogue Milosevic. 



For years the prosecutors called hundreds of witnesses against him and rained tons of documents on him, but still a 'sound case' against him was missing.



Things got only worse for the tribunal when Milosevic finally started his defense. What the flatterers of the tribunal, passing themselves as reporters, hid from the general public in Western countries is that with the help of his witnesses Milosevic, more and more, wreaked havoc on what was still left from the accusations.



What he was able to show over the past 16 months, to a great extent with the help of Western witnesses, was not only catastrophic for his prosecutors but it was also so disastrous to NATO that it must have sent an alarm.



Just as the Western public opinion, misled and manipulated by a common front of politicians and media had to be reversed as regards the myth of the Iraqi weapons of mass destruction after the war of aggression against Iraq, in the same way Milosevic exposed at the tribunal systematically the Western misconceptions about the NATO´s war of 1999 against Yugoslavia.



Charge of chasing 'a Greater Serbia' no longer persued



In August 2005 prosecutor Nice felt compelled to announce that Milosevic would no longer be prosecuted on the central indictment that he tried to create a Greater Serbia with violence.

This brought down the whole construction of the complaints raised against him, which was based on, and kept together by, the central charge that Milosevic, as the leader of a criminal organization, did everything to create a Greater Serbia.



During the tribunal´s session on 29 November 2005, according to the transcripts of the proceedings, Milosevic reacted to this as follows:



     'On the 25th of August this year, Mr. Nice, after three

     and a half year of trial, said that he was not prosecuting

     me on account of a Greater Serbia, and he ascribed that

     idea to me from the very outset, from his introductory

remarks and then through the testimonies of almost half of

even more than half of his witnesses who - his witnesses, who spoke of a Greater Serbia as my objective and answered questions put by him to them in that context. (...) What is the fate of these proceedings that have been going on for over three years where you and I, and problably the other side, thougth that I was being tried for a Greater Serbia, which was the objective of some kind of alleged joint criminal enterprise? So what was what we tried to deal with when putting questions to the witnesses and in dealing with all the evidence, because that is what Mr. Nice was alleging through his witnesses? So then, what is the legal validity of that part of the proceedings, when  we are all being deluded into believing that this was the main objective of the Prosecution? So what´s the point of all these witnesses who talked about a Greater Serbia as my primary goal here? Are you going to take that out of the evidence, or are you going to let me examine them further?

Also what about this joint criminal enterprise? And what would its objective be after this change? And what is this phantom of a joint criminal enterprise that is being discussed here? And what is it that is exactly being alleged? People who are sitting here, including you, on the one hand, simply cannot know all the things that are referred to in all these documents that Mr. Nice served - a million pages, no less - and no one knows what the Prosecutor is prosecuting, including the Prosecutor herself. She doesn´t know either.

I think even Franz Kafka would feel that he did not have great imagination compared to this.´





Further havoc to NATO's carefully spinned positions



But the damage, caused by Milosevic to the Tribunal, was getting even bigger. And it turned against the Western accusers themselves like a boomerang.

Milosevic presented, again with mostly Western witnesses, forceful evidence that there was no humanitarian emergency in Kosovo on the eve of the NATO war of 1999 against Yugoslavia, that the KLA was conducting a large-scale terrorist campaign at the time, that international terrorism had secure positions in Bosnia while it was being supported by the West throughout the 1990’s, that the Twin Towers suicide terrorist Hatta resided there for a number of years in the 1990’s and that Osama Bin Laden was received by the Bosnian president Izetbegovic in November 1995.



It became a reflex for the tribunal judges to immediately dismiss these last testimonies as 'irrelevant'. Obviously, they attempted to keep a lid on such explosive announcements.



As if this had not been bad enough for the tribunal's case, Milosevic's witnesses gave also evidence that the Albanians were not driven out by the activities of the Serbian army in Kosovo but mostly as a result of the intensive NATO bombings and the intimidation by the KLA. For that reason there were also relatively more Kosovo Serbs among the refugees than Kosovo Albanians during the 1999 war.



When Alice Mahon, who was a member of the NATO Parliamentary Assembly at that time, finally gave evidence that the civil population was openly terrorized by the NATO bombings in the 1999 war, Milosevic was found dead a few days later.



Motives on NATO's side



Milosevic thus did not have a motive for suicide but the tribunal-entourage working for NATO did have a motive for murder. And let there be no misunderstanding that the tribunal is swarming with officials who have close connections with NATO.When the former vice-prosecutor Hewitt stepped back, he already stressed in an interview with the Dutch newspaper NRC Handelsblad that countless tribunal officials spent at least as much time at the US Embassy in the Hague as at the tribunal's office.



The case was getting completely out of hand for NATO(countries), the instigators and the financers of the tribunal. Earlier attempts to silence Milosevic by assigning him a lawyer and to reduce him to silent ‘attendance’ in his own trial failed. Then there was the unexpected factor which the tribunal could not control, namely the massive refusal of the witnesses to appear as witnesses under such conditions in the first place. Under this massive boycott the trial was on the verge of disintegrating.



It is obvious that enormous interests are at stake. After Abu Graïb and Guantanamo Bay, people, also in the West, are less gullible regarding the Western scruples in matters concerning human rights.



Milosevic's determination



I am one of the few Dutchmen who has had candid discussions with Milosevic. That way, I have had the opportunity to get to know him personally, as well as his standpoints and motives, in an informal setting. I can say that as a lawyer I have seldom met anybody who was so convinced of his case. And of his possibilities to prove it. If something escaped him, that was commonplace intrigues. He had a mission and he stood behind it, without reservations. 



Also his assigned counsel Steven Kay declared 11 March 2006 on BBC World that he spoke with Milosevic just some weeks ago about suicide. Kay stated that he could not imagine that Milosevic had undertaken any suicidal action, that Milosevic, to his opinion, was determined to bring this fight before the tribunal to an end and that Milosevic told him that he had not waged this legal battle with an intention finally to bring at stake his own life.



This opinion is shared by everyone who was in close contact with Milosevic. He was firmly determined to finish his job. 



The next witness, scheduled to testify, the former Montenegrin president Momir Bulatovic, told a news conference that Milosevic, during the last months of his life  and imprisonment, was 'strongly and deeply' convinced that he was being poisoned by the tribunal.



Bulatovic stipulated:



"The crown proof that Milosevic was poisoned is the Hague tribunal's indifference - the tribunal did nothing - although the medication was found in his bloodstream on 12 january, while the results of tests were given to Milosevic only on 9 March."



He also stated:



"On 9 march, Milosevic spoke to the assistant of the imposed defence lawyer, Gillian Higgins and asked her to refer to the court council  his request that an independant medical commission establish whether he was being poisoned."

And H.E. James Bissett, the former  Canada's Ambassador to Yugoslavia from 1990 to 1992, who testified as a witness on February 23-24 said in an interview with CKUK's 'Monday's Encounter':



"When I went te see him in penitentiary in the Hague, Milosevic was dressed very casually. (..) He looked good. He had good color. He was relaxed. He had a sense of humor. He was obviously busy trying to prepare for my testomony and he struck me as being reasonable content with the way the trial was going on."



And:



"The following day, however, it was in the afternoon around five o'clock after two or three hours with him, he suddenly became flushed in the face and clasped his hands to his head. I was startled and asked if he was all right. He answered that he was O.K. and explained that he suffered from a loud ringing sound in his ears that seemed as though he was speaking in an empty pail. He told me that although his blood pressure was under control he had this constant ringing and echoing sounds in his head."





And, finally, Socialist Party aide of Milosevic, Milorad Vucelic, recounting a phone conversation the day before Milosevic's death, declared that the ex-president was very defiant:



"He told me, Don't worry, they will not destroy me or break me; I shall defeat them all".





More than 200 pages appeals to the tribunal to stop it to endanger his life





If “they” did not kill Milosevic, for which they had every power and opportunity in a setting like the prison, then they drove him to death. The warnings, appeals and supplications by organizations that were sympathetic to him to stop compromising his life and health, consists of more than 200 pages accumulated over the years.



Not only medical negligence



But, as already stipulated, also strong indications remain that there was not only a matter of medical negligence but there are also strong indications that his health deliberately and directly was undermined during, certainly, at least some crucial periods of his process.



The final piece is constituted by the very suspect events during the first period of 2006. After it became clear that it would be impossible to stop Milosevic to continue, through his witnesses, to establish facts which are for NATO and its usual tales about the recent Yugoslav history higly compromising.



In January 2006 a drug used to treat leprosy and tuberculosis, and interfering with medicines Milosevic was taking for high bood pressure and vascular disease was found in his blood samples, but this was never made public untill shortly before his death.



According to an official statement after Milosevic´s death by the tribunal's registrar Holthuis, the tribunal would not have not been informed about this medical report before March 7, 2006. Neither Milosevic himself was informed before this date about this medical report.



This state of affairs raises the more suspicion since, normally, Milosevic received all medical reports concerning himself shortly after his examinations and so did the tribunal, when it was the commissioner of the medical reporting. 



Urgent questions



So the question raises: why this report was kept secret for such a long time? And who decided to keep this report secret for such a prolonged period of time?



This are  the more urgent questions because there is no doubt that this drug in his blood was extremely dangerous for him and made him to be in acute mortual danger.



So who decided to keep him for such a prolonged period in mortual danger?

Those who decided to keep this highly explosive and alarming medical report secret for two months must also have been well informed about the content, and, as a consequence, they must must have been fully aware that Milosevic's life was at stake by the drugs found in his blood.

Were it the same forces which applied these drugs to him?





These drugs must have had a further devastating effect to his health and everybody could see this further deterioration of his health reflected in his his whole appearance. Despite this clear signal, the trial chamber didn't take any measure in favour of him, which might have shown any feeling of responsibility for his obviously further declining health. 



Finally Milosevic felt forced to file a request at the tribunal to seek medical relief and treatment in Russia.



Those malicious forces responsible for the fact that this highly alarming medical report remained secret for such a prologed period also succeeeded in keeping it secret till after the tribunal had decided upon this request. On February 24, 2006, this request was denied bij the trial chamber.



If the trial chamber knew, at the moment of its ruling, about the content of this report, then there can be no other conclusion then that the tribunal's judges were part of a plot hatched against Milosevic, or even the insprirators of that plot.

Because then it would be sure that, despite that they were aware that Milosevic's life was seriously endangered by extremely harmful drugs in his blood, they deliberate would have ignored and concealed that.



If the judges of the trial chamber really would not have been familiar with the content of the report before it was given to Milosevic, nevertheless a number of questions remain.



The most urgent questions which, then, will remain are: why the judges refrained from insisting on getting acqainted with the content of this report as soon as possible an why they accepted that the release of this report remained forthcoming ?



Was this simply because the judges of the trial chamber were not interested in the health of Milosevic at all ?



Or was there something more behind it ?

Was it, maybe, more convenient to the tribunal's judges 'to be not wiser' and was it, consequently, a matter of tactics for the trail chamber's judges to abstain from insisting upon the release of the report?

So that they could hold a free hand to dismiss Milosevic's request for medical treatment in Moscow ?



Or were they even secretely tipped about the tendency the report and and was this enough knowledge for them to abstain from further insistence upon a full release ?      



Bad faith by the trial chamber anyhow



Anyhow, it is a matter of fact that the trial chamber's judges have not taken any action in order to be able to take into account the content of this pending medical report in their pending decision upon Milosevic's request for medical treatment in Moscow.



This alone is already giving evidence of their bad faith with respect to Milosevic.



Refusal to allow treatment in Moscow



Further evidence of their bad faith with respect to Milosevic follows from the reasoning of their ruling, which states:



"The Chamber notes that the the Accused is currently in the latter stages of a very lengthy trial, in which he is charges  with many serious crimes, and at the end of which, if convicted, he may face the possibility of life inprisonment. In these circumstances, and notwithstanding the guarantees of the Russian Federation and the personal undertaking of the Accused, the Trial Chamber is not satisfied that the first prong of the test has been met - that is , that it is the more likely than not that the Accused, if released, would return for continuation of his trial."



As already stated by Andy Wilcoxson, member of the Slobodan Milosevic Freedom Centre The Hague on the February 24, 2006 edition of his site www.slobodan-milosevic.org/hague.htm:



"What the tribunal is saying here is that the Russian Government can not be trusted to apprehend a 64-year-old man with a hart condition if he tried to escape. For all its empty rethoric about human rights, what the Hague Tribunal has shown by its decision is that it is perfectly happy to imperil a man's life just for the sake of politics."



This was written by Andy Wilcoxson, not realizing that he really forecasted by this Milosevic's death only two weeks later. 



Earlier the tribunal allowed people accused to go back to Kosovo and Montenegro. Like, for instance, Pavle Strugar for a hip replacement surgery. Why it has more trust in the government of Montenegro or the 'interim administration' of Kosovo than the Russian Federation, which has given its word to return Milosevic, is not explained, but the insult to a permanent momber of the Security Council is inescapable.



The day after his death a report posted on the official website of the Russia Federation's Ministry of Foreign Affairs stated:



"Russian doctors were ready to offer him due assistance and the Russian authorities guaranteed the fulfillment of all related ICTY requirements. Unfortunately, despite our guarantees the tribunal refused to give Milosevic a chance to get treatment in Russia."



On March 15, 2006, the head of the Russian medical team, which had been prepared to treat him in Moscow, Leo Bokeria, member of the Russian Academy of Medical Sciences, declared at a press conference in the Hague:



"Ãf Milosevic was taken to any specialised Russian hospital, the more so to such a stationary medical institution as ours, he would have been subjected to coronographic examination, two stents would be made, and he would have lived for many long years to come. A person has died in our contemparary epoch, when all the methods to treat him were available and the proposals of our country and the reputation of our medicine were ignored."



And:



"Ãt's a great regret that they did not heed our numerous appeals during examination. The point is that a man who had suffered from a complex illness and the heart and vascular system was not examined adequately, and thus naturally he could not be cured. If he had had a coronary arteriography...then of course he would have undergone surgery or a bypass and he would be alive".



  

Finally top Russian heart specialist Bokeria said he believed the right medical examinations of Milosevic could have prevented his death.



Deliberate delay of the release of the medical reporting - more questions



If the trial chamber's judges really didn't know anything about the content of the medical report which revealed the drugs in his blood, it must be concluded that those malicious forces who were after Milosevic's physical destruction must have deliberately delayed the release of this report. In order to prevent that their positive knowledge  that Milosevic's life was seriously endangered would became common.



After all, there is no denying the fact that the release of this ominous report was delayed for two months. And, considering the highly alarming content and the fact that the report even had to deal with a life-threatening situation for Milosevic, it must be held for sure, unless still the opposite would be evidenced, that this was done deliberately.        



So if it were not the trial chamber's judges who spearheaded this final conspiracy against Milosevic's life, than other tribunal official must have been responsible for that.  

   



According to Holthuis, the tribunal's registrar in his above-mentioned official statement, the trial chamber of the tribunal also received the report only March 7, 2006, but without taking any action.

So why not ?



If the trial chamber's judges would have been trustful, they of course would have taken action immediately.

The more because their daily experience with Milosevic and the fact that they simply must have been aware that he was in a growing bad health.



But no alarm, no action from the trial chamber's judges after they got familiar with the content of this report.

Instead, they did nothing at all.

They only silenced the very existence of this report, and its very alarming content.  



Milosevic pointed out the existence of the report to the outside world, not the tribunal



For it also should be stressed that it was not the tribunal which finally released the existence of this highly disturbing medical report, and, consequently, the existence of these highly worrying medical facts, but Milosevic.



Through a letter, a cry for help to the Russian government, which become public only after his death.



So the existence of this medical report became only public after the text of a handwritten letter emerged, dated March 8, send by Milosevic to the Russian Minister of Foreign Affairs and asking for active steps by the Russians in order to bring about a medical treatment for him in Russia.



This letter stated, as far as relevant:



“I think that the persistence, with which the medical treatment in Russia was denied, in the first place is motivated by the fear that through careful examination it would be discovered that there were active, wilful steps taken, to destroy my health throughout the proceedings of the trial, which could not be hidden from Russian specialists.

In order to verify my allegations, I´m presenting you a simple example which you can find in the attachment. This document, which I received on March 7, shows, that on January 12th (i.e. two months ago), an extreme strong drug was found in my blood, which is used, as they themselves say, for the treatment of tuberculosis and leprosy, although I never used any kind of antibiotic during this 5 years that I´m in their prison.

(..)Also the fact that doctors needed 2 MONTHS (to report to me) can´t have any other explanation than we are facing manupulation. (emphasis added by the author). In any case, those who foist on me a drug against leprosy can´t treat my illness; likewise those from which I defended my country in times of war and who have an interest to silence me.”





Not directly being poisoned doesn't mean that Milosevic was not deliberately killed



At the autopsy performed by the Netherlands Forensic Institute (NFI) it was established that Milosevic died as a result of a cardiac arrest and that there were no traces of drugs in his blood.

However, as far as the results of this autopsy are considered reliable, this only proves that he was not directly poisoned at the eve of his death.



But this outcome, in no way, establishes that there were not, in an earlier stage, deliberate efforts to undermine his health.

In order to imperil, step by step, his life.



Alarming signals in November 2002



Already in 2002 there had been alarming signals that Milosevic deliberately received drugs which were damaging his fragile health.

On 23 November 2002 the leading Dutch Newspaper NRC Handelsblad reported, titled “Milosevic got wrong medicine”, as far as relevant here:



“In the Scheveningen prison Slobodan Milosevic was given the wrong medicine, causing his blood pressure to rise very quickly. This was why at the beginning of this month the trial against the former president of Yugoslavia was supended. Sources within the tribunal have confirmed this. However a spokesman for the Tribunal denies that mistakes were made. He refuses to discuss the issue further on grounds that “This is about the privacy of the defendant.”



On 18 November 2002 a cardiological report was handed over to Milosevic, resulting from a medical examination on November 15th, which stated inter alia:



     “PATIENT HISTORY

     In recent weeks during trial again steep blood pressure up

     to around 220/120 to 130 mmHg. The patient had no other

     complains related to this. I am now asked to make a

     prognosis regarding Mr. MILOSEVIC´s blood pressure and

     determine whether the patient is still fit to stand

     trial.”



And further, under the paragraph “Discussion”:



     “During the trial again strong increase in blood pressure.

     Most likely a combination of an existing tendency to

     hypertension and the  mental pressure of the trial.”



This all was going on exactly in a time period that the prosecutor was vehemently making fresh attempts to convince the trial chamber that it was urgently needed to force Milosevic to accept counsel and to usurp his right to defend himself.

In order to silence him.



So in view of this purpose there were, at that very moment, good reasons to deteriorate his health and to cause a situation that his blood pressure got persistently out of hand.

In order to bring him into a state of health which would it make impossible to him to conduct his own defence.





Alarming signals in August 2004



Two years later, the prosecutor did again her utmost to drive Milosevic out of his own defence. And, instead, to make Kay his spokesman in court, while Milosevic again furiously opposed this attempt to move him out.



During his inspired plea against these renewed infamous attempts in the court session of September 1, 2004, Milosevic stipulated that he was fit enough to continue his own defence and, subsequently, stressed the incident mentioned hereafter:



     “Therefore I wish to reiterate: My right to defend myself

     is something that I will neither accept having diminished

     nor will I ever waive it. Please bear that in mind.

     And you can reach your own decisions, but I receive the

     medicaments given to by your people, your employees.

     What is happening here, I don´t know, but I can bring the

     whole floor of the Detention Unit here to testify what

     happened when the food I had was exchanged with the food

     of the person across the passageway, and there was a big

     to-do about setting things right, although the food

     apparently was the same. It appeared to be the same. And I

     did not raise the issue. I don´t know what was going on.

     But please be kind enough to bear in mind that when, for

     three years, they have been saying one thing and now

     suddenly they turn around and say something else, I am

     right in having suspicions. My suspicions may or may not

     be justified, but they are well grounded.”



     (Trial transcripts September 1, 2004 - pages 32351 to

     32351)



The last remark was regarding his doctors, who had always stated, untill that very moment, that he was enough fit to defend himself, but now had taken the opposite position.



And again, also that specific period of this incident was a crucial one in the attempts of the prosecutor to topple Milosevic´s own defence.

And this time the Prosecutor succeeded: Kay has been installed as counsel.



But even this attempt finally failed, because, as already pointed out, the process threatened to fizzle out since the witnesses refused to show up.

And so the tribunal and the prosecutor were forced again to back down.

And, grinding their teeth, they were forced to re-establish Milosevic's right to conduct his own defence.



So there was only one way left to silence Milosevic.

An ultimate and definitive one.



Legal steps against the tribunal's officials



Over the recent years I have acted repeatedly on Milosevic’s behalf. In trials to defend his fundamental human rights within the Dutch legal order. In that context, he has empowered me to take whatever steps were necessary at a given moment. That was the case with the trials against the Dutch State after his kidnapping to The Hague, the proceedings against the then 'amicus curiae' Wladimiroff, against Kay, who threatened to usurp his right of defense, etc. Similarly, legal steps will be taken against the relevant tribunal officers, judges as well as prosecutors, on account of the cruel and inhuman treatment in the context of the Anti-Torture Treaty, a cruel and inhuman treatment by, at least, denying Milosevic, a sick man whose life was in danger for years, the necessary medical care. And by not giving him the support that was necessary, as was evident by the state of his health for years.



The tribunal's officials have protected themselves with a broad immunity from prosecution. But acts contrary to the Convention against Torture are excluded.







Mr. N.M.P. Steijnen

Trifkovic on Islam - Radio interview transcript

http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/cgi-bin/newsviews.cgi/Islam/Islam_as_the_Agent_.html?seemore=y

ChroniclesExtra! Friday, April 07, 2006

ISLAM AS THE AGENT OF REVOLUTIONARY CHANGE

The following is from an interview with Srdja Trifkovic broadcast live on April 7, 2006, on The Right Balance http://www.therightbalance.org/ (abbreviated transcript)

* The show’s presenter Greg Allen first asked Dr. Trifkovic to draw a distinction between Islamic terrorism and other varieties of the same problem: What makes Jihadist terrorism different? *

TRIFKOVIC: All other forms of terrorism use it as an instrument in pursuit of some wider objective. The Bolsheviks were blowing up banks in 1905 and assassinating political leaders, and their purpose was to undermine the structure of the system so that when the revolutionary moment comes, as it did in 1917, you go a stage further. With ETA in Spain, the IRA, Sendero Luminoso, Tamil Tigers, or the Sighs in India, you have terrorist outrages but they are not an integral part of the mindset, the world outlook of the given group. With Islam, terrorism is not only an instrument, a tool, it is also the core of policy itself. Terrorist violence is not only divinely sanctioned, it is divinely ordained. We don’t have time for the details, but suffice to say that the condoning and overt advocacy of violence both in the primary texts of Islam, such as the Kuran and the Hadith, the traditions and sayings of the “prophet,” and in more than 13 centuries of Islam’s historic practice, make that record pretty straightforward. For people to still debate the allegedly peaceful nature of Islam, its “true character,” is plainly absurd. The truth is out there and those who want to deny it are the same ones who, 50 years ago, would have been the apologists for Uncle Joe, or 30 years ago would have claimed that the bold experiment of Chairman Mao was paving the way for the future. [...]

The mindset of appeasement, even after Munich 1938, is at work. It’s not only that those who had claimed that Mein Kampf was a pacifist tract, or that Uncle Joe’s Moscow trials were an exercise in impeccable legality, are now acting as the apologists for Islam. They are actively importing the jihadist fifth column! It is the particular emphasis of my book that we need an absolute moratorium on the immigration of Muslims into both Western Europe and North America, coupled with the denial of citizenship to all practicing Muslims, the denial of security clearances, and the policy of systematic deportation of all jihadists activists. Once we realize that jihad is a political mindset and that jihadist activities—which are inherently discriminatory against women, against Jews, against so-called infidels—are a political, subversive and radically seditious activity with a revolutionary objective, i.e. turning the World of War into the World of Faith, Dar al-Harb into Dar al-Islam, then we’ll realize that the First Amendment no longer applies. To all intents and purposes Islam ought to be regarded as a violent political ideology rather than just a religious cult.

* The next question concerned the curious tendency of the Left to overlook, ignore, or even deny Islam’s mistreatment of women, homosexuals, and other “protected minorities.” *

TRIFKOVIC: The explanation is fairly simple, and we see the same syndrome all over the place. For instance in Scandinavia you have literally a rape epidemic, perpetrated by Muslim immigrants against Swedish, Norwegian and Danish women. And yet, very active, very well organized and financed feminist movements in those countries are keeping quiet—both about the epidemic itself, and about the identity of its perpetrators.

The reason is that the Left sees Islam as a de facto ally—as Marxists would say, an “objective ally”—in the destruction of the vestiges of the traditional society based upon Christianity and its moral code, and traditional cultural patterns. So what they are doing is using Islam as the battering ram and as a would-be fellow-traveler, in their grand anti-Christian, Christophobic design. They hope that once they create their brave, new multiculturalist Utopia, Islam can be tamed, that soft porn and state education will convert the Muslims’ offspring to the general multiculturalist melange.

We know they’re wrong because we know that second and third-generation Muslim immigrants in Western Europe, particularly in France and Britain, are far more radical and far more Islamic-minded than their parents and grandparents. The explanation is very simple: the tepid, non-descript multiculturalist pap that is being offered by the dominant elites cannot inspire these young men and women. They need something that gives meaning to their lives, and so they fall back upon the religion of their forefathers—and once they do that, they cannot do otherwise but turn against the multiculturalist host-society. So the Leftists are making a colossal miscalculation. Far from being the clients of their future global welfare state, the Muslims—in the Western world in particular—will be the agents of revolutionary change not only against the remnants of Christianity today, but also against the secularist, multicultural Utopia of tomorrow.

* Greg Allen’s next question concerned the difference between Islam’s basic tenets and the teaching of other monotheistic religions, Judaism and Christianity: do we all worship the same God, as some claim? *

One of the clichés that are endlessly repeated by those who seek to conceal the true nature of Islam is that Muslims “believe in the same God” as Christians and Jews. This is a severe distortion of the truth. What Muslims believe is that they know the true nature of God that Judaism and Christianity tell lies about, and have a distorted picture. The fact that Muslims share a Levantine monotheism of sorts with Judaism and Christianity only makes them more, not less antagonistic to us… The concept of an utterly transcendent Allah that cannot be “known” and doesn’t “reach out” to man or man to him. There is no “contact” with God that is essential to the Judaic and Christian tradition. In fact, the forlorn call, repeated five times a day from every minaret in the world, sounds more like the cry of an abandoned child for an absentee father.

At the practical level, the notion that Muslims award Christians and Jews some level of respect as “the people of the book” is also greatly distorted. In practice it only means that for as long as they accept the status of second-class citizens, and pay the poll tax with “the hand of humility,” their security will be guaranteed—but not their equality of rights.

At the theological level, the fundamental difference is the absence of love. It needs to be understood that Islam’s denial of the Trinity creates a completely different world outlook. “Allah begets not,” i.e. he is no Father, and “is not begotten,” i.e. he is no Son, and no one is like him, i.e. no Holy Spirit. The utterly . . . not only “monotheistic” but monistic image of the world under an unreachable, unknowable god, creates the kind of spiritual uniformity that ultimately results in both cultural and social-economic wasteland that is the Muslim world today. [ . . . ]

What is known as Islam’s “golden age” happened largely in spite of Islam, rather than thanks to it. Connecting the brief blossoming of arts and sciences in Baghdad and Cordoba with the “benevolent” influence of Islam is the same as saying that the high level of scholarship on Pushkin or Tolstoy in Moscow in the 1950s was the result of Stalinism and dialectical materialism, or that the Berlin Philharmonic under Furtwaengler was as good as it was in the late 1930s thanks to Nazism. But the true causes of squalor and corruption in the Muslim world are indeed moral and cultural, rather than economic. After that brief period of flowering its had very little to offer to the world, either in the sphere of ideas or in the sphere of material production—even though it had that unique geographic position at the crossroads of civilizations . . . The problem cannot be resolved by seeking to import Western technology and Western know-how, while retaining the old mindset. We’ve already seen it with the Ottoman Turkey in the 19th century. They’d brought in Western engineers and military officers, and doctors, to train their Muslim students, but the latter never managed to produce more than what was imparted to them.

The problem remains insoluble to this day. The Christian world’s discipline, cohesion, ingenuity and prosperity are rooted in certain aspects of the Western psyche that cannot be easily transplanted. It has a lot to do with the notion of delayed gratification as opposed to instant gratification and sensuality that is the hallmark of the Muslim world.

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Notes From Belgrade by Boba Borojevic

http://www.serbianna.com/columns/borojevic/029.shtml

Notes From Belgrade
By Boba Borojevic
 
April 8, 2006 - My last three visits to Belgrade happened to be at the time
of major events there. Massive demonstrations of some half a million people
took to the streets of Belgrade on October 5th 2000. It marked the downfall
of Milosevic’s regime and take over by Democratic Opposition of Serbia. I
believed as much as the rest of protestors who spent days and nights in the
streets of Belgrade protesting at that time, that the "October Revolution"
was going to radically transform the country for the better. The results
have been disappointing and the rest is history.
My next visit to Belgrade happened to be on September 11, 2001. The moment
I landed to Belgrade airport, I heard the news about the first terrorist
attack on the World Trade Center in New York. The Serbs' reactions to
9-11-01? Almost everyone said it was a terrible tragedy, and they meant it.
But then a lot of people would move on to a more delicate issue: What had
Americans expected, after all? Yugoslavia was one of many countries bombed
by the United States contrary to international law, with no sanction from
the United Nations. The terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the
Pentagon will subsequently lead to ‘War on terror” and Islamic extremism in
the World, Europe, Bosnia and Kosovo.

On my third visit, I arrived in Belgrade on March 15 2006 only a couple of
minutes after the plane carrying the body of the former Yugoslav President
Slobodan Milosevic from the Netherlands touched down at the city's airport.
No government representative stood on the tarmac to meet it, only dozens of
Milosevic’s supporters and party members. The coffin, wrapped in plastic,
slid down a conveyor belt from the belly of the jet and sat untouched for a
few minutes under light snow. Milosevic’s associates approached the casket.
They placed a Serbian flag and roses over the casket of the man who once
was a popularly elected president, and quietly carried it to a commercial
hearse. Several hundred mourners lined part of the road and tossed
carnations at the hearse. Slobodan Milosevic was buried in a quiet ceremony
at his family estate in his hometown of Pozarevac on a cold winter day, on
Saturday, March 18. The funeral followed an emotional farewell in Belgrade
that drew about 150,000 followers who packed a square in front of the
federal parliament to pay their respects. They gave the former leader, a
hero's farewell and pronounced him a victim of the U.N. war crimes
tribunal, in whose custody he died on March 11.



  


Scott Taylor, Boba Borojevic and H.E. James Bissett at SANU
 
  


The funeral of the former president Slobodan Milosevic completely
overshadowed news of a major three day conference, which carried the title
Kosovo and Metohija: past, present and future, organized by the Serbian
Academy of Sciences and Arts (SANU) from 16 – 18th March. Excellent
speakers from eleven countries gave their speeches at the conference. We
heard many respected professors, diplomats, historians and journalists
speak on the theme of Kosovo, such as James Bissett, Scott Taylor, Diana
Johnston, Peter Maher, Sir Alfred Sherman, Srdja Trifkovic, academician
Kosta Mihajlovic and Stevan Karamata, Slavenko Terzic, Raju Thomas, Caslav
Ocic, Smilja Avramov, Kosta Cavoski, and many more. Their arguments as to
why Kosovo should remain part of Serbia can be categorized into four
groups:
Historical and cultural: Kosovo and Metohia historically and culturally
belong to the Serbs. Kosovo was part of Serbia as early as the Nemanjic
dynasty (12th-14th c.). Kosovo and Metohia are considered the key to the
identity of the Serbs. Kosovo is a place where the first Serbian kings were
crowned and where there are Orthodox Christian monasteries with precious
icons, listed by UNESCO as world cultural monuments.  The seat of the
independent Serbian Orthodox Church was in Pec, in Kosovo. Serbs call
Kosovo and Metohia the heart of Serbia and the cradle of the Serbian state
and nation.

Economical:  Serbia has poured a good deal of money into Kosovo and
Metohia. “For decades, significant federal resources have been set aside
for the development of Kosovo and Metohia, the reason being that all the
previous Yugoslav constitutions stipulated "more rapid development for
under-developed regions, and the most rapid for Kosovo and Metohia" as the
federation's obligation. Data for the period 1981-1988 on total
contributions and funds received by republics and autonomous provinces
according to federal regulations shows that Central Serbia (meaning
Republic of Serbia without its autonomous provinces - Vojvodina and Kosovo
and Metohja) had the largest outflow (212 billion dinars), and Kosovo and
Metohia the largest inflow (113 billion dinars). Kosovo and Metohia was
also the largest relative "winner" - receiving 12 times more of these funds
than it gave,” said Caslav Ocic in his speech. For instance, Kosovo
received 30-50% of the total investments made by the Federation's Fund for
Under-Developed Regions and the International Bank for Reconstruction and
Development. The rate of investments was always noticeably higher in Kosovo
than in Serbia or Yugoslavia, from 30 to 200%. Despite Albanian demands for
independence, Belgrade is still paying the Kosovo's international debt to
the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank. The bill amounts to a
total of $1.4 billion and Serbia puts aside 250 million dollars every year
in order to pay these debts back. A number of speakers at the conference
concluded that an independent Kosovo would be economically unsustainable.

Legal and Political: The aerial attacks launched by NATO against Yugoslavia
in 1999 establish the truth of the axiom: “Power tends to corrupt, and
absolute power tends to corrupt absolutely”. There is no legal sanction
whatsoever for this unilateral action by NATO, carried out at the behest of
the US. The NATO action can only be described as an arbitrary and blatant
violation of the sovereignty and territorial integrity of a member state of
the UN, which has no legal sanction under international law.

The independence of Kosovo, which was expected by many western observers as
the most logical solution after the war in 1999 is in fact an option, which
would seriously destabilize the entire Balkans. An independent Kosovo would
not only be economically unsustainable but would generate serious security
problems for the neighboring countries. Hardly any Serb would be able to
live in an independent Kosovo. In fact, a new ethnically clean Albanian
state of Kosovo, based on Islamic law will continue to provide the breeding
ground for international terrorist groups in the Balkans. A “failed state”
of Kosovo showed to be incapable of protecting minorities and preventing
horrible atrocities to take place against the Serbian civilian population
and other minorities. ”Failed states are”, according to James Bissett
“defined as those countries whose governments have weakened to the point
where they can no longer provide adequate public services, physical
security or economic livelihood to their inhabitants. They become
attractive to terrorist organizations as safe havens and as staging grounds
for attacks on other targets.”  It remains to be seen if the Kosovo
precedent of a selective use of unilateralism and even pre-emptive military
action will be applied in the other conflict areas of the world in the
event Kosovo becomes independent.

Ideological and Civilizational: Defending Kosovo means defending Christian
civilization. An independent Albanian Kosovo will succumb to the cause of
global jihad. Kosovo’s current leaders (members of KLA) have obtained
significant aid from Islamic countries such as Iran, Afghanistan, and
Pakistan. Kosovo has become a predominantly Muslim society with the obvious
intention to wipe out any trace of Christianity there. In his speech Sir
Alfred Sherman noted that: “Governments seem helpless or unwilling to stem
the tide. Spokesmen for the EU laud this Muslim colonization as Europe and
the Muslim world as coming together, ignoring its utter one-sidedness.
Criticism of these trends is stifled as “racism”, ignoring consideration of
patriotism, national consciousness and social order. The undermining of
national homogeneity based on common values is leading to a visible social
breakdown.”

 “After almost two decades of Yugoslavia’s crisis and disintegration,”
explained Srdja Trifkovic in his speech, “too many Serbs still cherish too
many illusions about the nature of the Western beast, its hostility to
Christianity and to any form of ethnic coherence of European nations. To
the promoters of such Western pathology, those who argue that they should
be entitled to keep a territory because they feel a strong, centuries-long
historical bond to it, or because they had built lovely Christian churches
in it, or because it underpins their moral code and spirituality based on
Christian martyrdom, or because they are defending themselves against an
aggressive and resurgent Islam… are only proving the necessity of having
that territory taken away from them! The arguments advanced by Belgrade’s
distinguished professors only confirm to the luminaries of the
International Community that Kosovo should be detached from Serbia in order
to cure her from such retrograde atavisms. An ideological commitment to
neoliberal globalization has turned multiculturalism and open-ended,
predominantly Muslim immigration into two inviolable dogmas of the elite
class. Its members reject the suggestion that the shared legacy of the
European family and its common historical experiences are worthy of
preserving as such. That is why they will do their utmost to detach Kosovo
from Serbia… This important lesson is yet to be absorbed in Belgrade.”

My congratulations go to SANU for putting together a conference such as
this one. Advertisement of the conference was the only thing that was
poorly executed. We were told, however, that SANU intends to publish a book
with the materials presented at the conference, which will in a sense
represent a testimony of the time for some future generations.

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Western peace prevention continues in former Yugoslavia

Latest news:
http://news.google.be/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Kosovo


Serbs still not ready to return to Kosovo politics
http://www.setimes.com/cocoon/setimes/xhtml/en_GB/features/setimes/features/2006/04/07/feature-02

EU prepares for police mission in Kosovo
http://euobserver.com/15/21349

"Kosovo still needs U.S. to help keep peace"
http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/1144399569186100.xml&coll=2


"The referendum bears great significance to the Albanians in Montenegro"
http://www.makfax.com.mk/look/agencija/article.tpl?IdLanguage=1&IdPublication=1&NrArticle=19645&NrIssue=430&NrSection=20

Independence by Minority?
http://www.tol.cz/look/TOL/article.tpl?IdLanguage=1&IdPublication=4&NrIssue=161&NrSection=4&NrArticle=16459


The  role of the Ohrid Framework Agreement and
the peace process  in Macedonia - A reality  check
http://www.transnational.org/forum/meet/2006/Vankovska_Macedonia_Check.pdf

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http://www.transnational.org/pressinf/2006/pi234_PeacePrevention.html

The Transnational Foundation for Peace and Future Research (TFF)

Western peace prevention continues in former Yugoslavia* 

PressInfo # 234

March 9, 2006

By Jan Oberg, TFF director


If you believe that Western politics should serve as a model of decency, fairness and principled policies, consider these topical news from ex-Yugoslavia:

. Kofi Annan's envoy on Kosovo, former Finnish President Martti Ahtisaari, tells Der Spiegel that Kosovo is heading for independence. In a tone that can only be characterized as arrogant, he tells the Serb side that they should know the rules of the game and know their own best interests. This simply means he is no mediator who listens to and respects all sides with a view to find a fair solution. He is an agent for powers who can dictate their solution. Is Kofi Annan concerned?

. Kosovo which was bombed off from Serbia and occupied by NATO's illegal war in 1999 thus seems lost for Serbia. Will the remaining Serbs in Kosovo run away, start a guerrilla movement, try to join Serbia? Will there be a border war at some point? While all experts agree that Kosovo's leaders have not lived up to minimum standards for human rights, tolerance and refugee returns over the last seven years, the status will now come before standards; it is the exactly opposite of what the West decided a few years ago.

. Kofi Annan's Representative, Danish diplomat Søren Jessen Petersen, running UNMIK in the province, for a second time praises a suspected war criminal. Is Kofi Annan concerned that top-level UN staff does that? Earlier it was Ramush Haradinaj, the former Prime Minister indicted in the Hague. Now it is Agim Ceku, the new PM. Denmark has enough of scandals on its desk right now, so Jessen Petersen's flirtation with ethnic cleansers perhaps doesn't add much.

. Ceku was a leading officer in the Croatian Army when - in 1995 with the help of CIA and mercenary companies - it ethnically cleansed about 200.000 legitimate Croatian Serb citizens out of Croatia. 90% of them are still refugees in Serbia, no one supporting their return. Thus, all Yugoslavia's minorities were not and are not protected by Western human rights; Serbs are not worthy victims.

From 1993, Ceku went down and helped the most extremist people in his native Kosovo to build the KLA, the Kosovo Liberation Army behind the back of Dr. Rugova, the only pacifist leader in the now chopped-up country. (I know what Ceku did because I have had him tell me the story himself). KLA and Ceku was generously assisted by the German Intelligence Service, BND and - after the US took KLA off its list of terrorist organizations - by CIA. The moderate, pragmatically non-violent Kosovo-Albanian leader Dr. Rugova, who recently passed away, was dangerous; imagine he had achieved an independent Kosovo by non-violent means: what a catastrophe for those who believe in violent intervention, bombings and occupations as roads to peace.

. Immediately after the West's UN-NATO-EU-OSCE occupation of Serbia's province, we were told that they disarmed the KLA. They didn't, and everybody knew. KLA was a leading agency in effecting about 200.000 Serbs to leave Kosovo; proportionately it was the largest ethnic cleansing in the Balkans. But it was ours, so the Western free press turned a blind eye. KLA people also orchestrated the warfare across the border in Southern Serbia, and the 8-months war in Macedonia. It's all conveniently forgotten today; it has to be since Western interests are heading for an independent Kosovo/a. It's the logical consequence of NATO's bombing in 1999. And it does not seem to bother too many that this whole process is also a violation of UN Security Council resolution 1244. With Mr. Ceku entering the scene as the West's preferred statesman, Dr. Rugova is dead in more than one sense.

. The West, NATO, the UN and lobby groups like the International Crisis Group (of which Ahtisaari has been a leading member) argued that Kosovo-Albanians should not be criticised for forcing another good 200.000 Serbs out of Kosovo in the months after NATO's KLA-assisted destruction of both Kosovo and Serbia proper. The reason? They had suffered so much under Milosevic. While there is no doubt that Albanians suffered heavily under Milosevic police-state repression in Kosovo, there is also no doubt that a) Serbia is the only country to have wiped out their old leader by non-violent means and that b) reverse ethnic cleansing is disgusting and unacceptable. Together with Serbs from Croatia and Bosnia, these Kosovo-Serbs are still living as virtually non-noticed and forgotten refugees in Serbia, there are about 500.000 of them.

. Former Kosovo PM, Ramush Haradinaj - accused of serious war crimes - has been permitted by the Tribunal in the Hague to live in Kosovo. In contrast, Milosevic's request to be granted permission to go to Russia for urgent medical treatment in Russia has been turned down.

. The West requires Serbia to deliver Karadzic and Mladic to the Hague. The problem is that both CIA and FBI have been granted access to Serbia long ago and they have not been able to locate them. What game do Western powers play when they pretend that they have not been able to arrest these two people in Bosnia or elsewhere since 1995?

. Just a few days ago, the EU decided that Montenegro, the smaller partner in today's Serbia and Montenegro, may hold a referendum on independence. Remember, EU's foreign policy chief, Javier Solana, was S-G of NATO at the time, the highest civilian person behind the destruction of Yugoslavia.

The International Herald Tribune writes that the EU suggests "that Montenegro be allowed to secede from the two-state federation if 50 percent of the electorate takes part in the vote and 55 percent of voters opt for independence." Amazing indeed; a new European state can be created with only 27.5% or less that 200.000 voters behind it. And, remember, there are more Montenegrins living in Serbia than in Montenegro. So, the EU here uses a recipe for a) deep divisions or civil war inside, and b) population exchanges - Montenegrins in Serbia to Montenegro, Serbs in Montenegro to Serbia.

Furthermore, an independent Montenegro and an independent Kosovo will make the Serbs in Bosnia ask why on earth they should keep on being loyal with the independent "Dayton" Bosnia that 99% of them never voted for and which they - like all other citizens in Bosnia - was never asked to accept in a referendum.



The international "community's" peace prevention continues

Today few remember or know what happened 15-25 years ago in the Balkans. Few if any bother to see patterns and underlying structures. Few dare be politically incorrect and challenge the basic interpretations and the conflict (mis)management by the "international community" or the Balkanization of the EU and the U.S. Peace-making has become interventionism and occupation in disguise. The free Western media feel free to turn the blind eye to the absurdities and lack of principle that has become the brand of Western politics. If they did, there would be some who could point out the complete moral bankruptcy on which the above-mentioned policy initiatives are based.

Imagine that Serbia - the predictable net loser par excellence in the Yugoslav dissolution process since the 1980s - reacts to all the above by stalling, dragging its feet as they say, seeming to be uncooperative and even embittered. Imagine that these developments will make life impossible for moderates and Western-oriented actors in Serbia and play into the hands of the nationalist hardliners such as the Radical Party and that, together with other Chetnik sentiments, it wins the next election. Imagine that Serbia and its citizens turn inward, feel humiliated and become nationalist again.

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Then all those who have understood absolutely nothing of Yugoslavia the last 15 years will ask oh-so-innocently: How come these Serbs are so stubborn? Why don't they modernize themselves and become good European like the rest? Why don't they see their own best interest which is what we offer them? How strange that they won't just give up everything they cherished - Yugoslavia, autonomy for Croatian Serbs, Republika Srpska, Kosovo, Montenegro and - who knows when in the future - Voivodina and Sandjak in exchange for - exactly, you're right - nothing!

After 15 years of conflict mismanagement the West still seems to understand none of the complexities, psychology or history here. So be sure of two things: the U.S. and various EU members have their interests and when the next Balkan crisis erupts, they will stand united with two arguments: 1) we did nothing wrong and 2) the Serbs remain the problem! Remember Ahtisaari - the UN and State Department in one - says it bluntly: it is in Serbia's best interest to play according to our rules and forget whatever interests it may have.

We have not seen the end of the suffering in former Yugoslavia. Whether sooner or in a few decades ahead, we are likely to see violence erupt again.

The Holbrookes, Ahtisaaris and Jessen-Petersens as well as those whose puppets they are will know to blame one or more local parties and never ask: did we, the international community, perpetuate the Balkan tragedy?

Perhaps with the exception of Slovenia, genuine peace is found nowhere in former Yugoslavia. If Western actors were able to learn any lessons, we would see some change in the conflict "management" policies in the region. But that won't happen, because that would amount to a recognition of the counterproductive policies pursued the last 15 years. Thus, predictably, Western peace prevention continues, and -how cruel! - innocent Balkan citizens, not the conflict mismanagers, will pay the prize.

* The PressInfo is purely critical. The constructive, principled alternatives concerning Kosovo have been presented earlier in the Kosovo Solution Series and in PressInfo 228.

Mladic's wife accuses Serb officials of harassment to force surrender]

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Mladic's wife accuses Serb officials of harassment to force surrender
&#183; Family of wanted general complain of intimidation &#183; EU talks
in jeopardy if suspect not handed over
Ian Traynor in Zagreb
Friday April 07 2006
The Guardian


The wife of Europe's most wanted man, the Serbian genocide suspect Ratko
Mladic, said yesterday that her family was being hounded by the Serbian
security services and that several family members had been arrested to
encourage Mladic's surrender.

The European Union has given Serbia until the end of the month to arrest
and extradite Mladic to the war crimes tribunal in The Hague. A tribunal
spokesman said yesterday that the Serbian prime minister, Vojislav
Kostunica, had promised to deliver Mladic by the deadline.

Bosa Mladic, the general's wife, said two of her brothers and another two
relatives had been arrested, and her son's company had been raided by the
Serbian tax police in what she alleged was a campaign of intimidation
aimed at securing her husband's arrest.

Mladic was a Bosnian Serb commander and is wanted mainly on genocide
charges for the massacre of up to 8,000 Muslim males in Srebrenica in July
1995.

"I am in shock. I can't believe the pressure being put on us," Mrs Mladic
told the Belgrade newspaper, Kurir.

On Wednesday, leaders of the extreme nationalist and popular Radical party
in Belgrade accused the Serbian authorities of being responsible for
"brutal beatings and arrests" of members of the Mladic family. Yesterday,
the party leader, Tomislav Nikolic, called on Mladic to kill himself
rather than surrender.

The allegations of a concerted campaign of intimidation of the Mladic
family suggest that the Serbian government may be getting serious about
arresting the general, a hero to Serbian nationalists and a mass murderer
to the Muslims of Bosnia.

The allegations echo events in the run-up to last year's arrest of
Croatia's most-wanted war crimes suspect, Ante Gotovina, who was held in
the Canary Islands and is awaiting trial in The Hague. Before his capture,
the Croatian security services also employed dirty tricks against his
family to secure his arrest, according to informed diplomats. The tactics
worked, they said.

Gotovina had been protected by the Croatian government and security
services for years until he became a liability and the biggest impediment
to Croatia's integration with the EU. Serbia has the same predicament with
Mladic.

Last summer, the wife of Radovan Karadzic, the Bosnian Serb political
leader also wanted on genocide charges, called on her husband to give
himself up because of the pressure on his family. "Our family is under
constant pressure from all over. Our life and existence is jeopardised,"
said Ljiljana Karadzic. "I'm begging you to make this decision ... It will
be your sacrifice for us, for the sake of your family."

Last October, after a recommendation from Carla del Ponte, the chief
prosecutor at The Hague tribunal, the EU agreed to membership talks with
Croatia. Gotovina was arrested a few weeks later. Last week Ms Del Ponte
gave a positive verdict on Serbia's cooperation with the tribunal which
enabled the EU to go ahead with talks with Belgrade on closer ties. The
Serbs are said to have promised Ms Del Ponte access to security files that
it has denied for years. The EU has extended a deadline for Mladic's
arrest until the end of the month and has threatened to break off
negotiations if the deadline is missed.

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Speaker Wrong on Kosovo

Speaker Wrong on Kosovo

Tuesday, April 4, 2006

To the Editor:

I am responding to the item “Former Ambassador Calls for Kosovo’s Independence†(THE HOYA, March 24, 2006, A5).

Apparently, Ambassador Morton Abramowitz has never changed his view that “Kosovo must be independent.†One has to wonder what brought about that gem of wisdom by the esteemed ambassador. The degree of disinformation that is out there vis-a-vis Kosovo is unbelievable. According to Mr. Abramowitz’s logic, the criteria for Kosovo’s independence are murder, mayhem and barbarism. Is Europe ready and willing to embrace an intolerant, ethnically cleansed and terrorist-supported Islamic state in its underbelly?

Canada’s retired Maj. Gen. Lewis MacKenzie said it best in an op-ed piece published by the National Post in 2004:

“The Kosovo-Albanians have played us like a Stradivarius [violin],†he wrote. “We have subsidized and indirectly supported their violent campaign for an ethnically pure and independent Kosovo. We have never blamed them for being the perpetrators of the violence in the early ’90s and we continue to portray them as the designated victim today in spite of evidence to the contrary.â€Â

Mr. Abramowitz, be careful what you wish for.

Liz Milanovich

Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

March 25, 2006

Kosovo The real test of U.S. foreign policy

WorldNetDaily:

Kosovo: The real test of U.S. foreign policy
http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=49604

Kosovo: The real test of U.S. foreign policy


Posted: April 5, 2006

1:00 a.m. Eastern


By Aleksandar Pavic

© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

If you want to see a place where Christians are outside of the law on their own ancestral land – come to Kosovo.

If you want to see American troops committed to establishing a narco-Islamic state on Christian land – come to Kosovo.

If you want to see Christian churches, monasteries and cemeteries desecrated on an almost daily basis, under the noses of thousands of Western soldiers – look no further than Kosovo.

Seven years after William Jefferson Clinton launched a bombing campaign against a European Christian land in support of the Islamic terrorist Kosovo Liberation Army, it's as though the bombs have never stopped falling on the Christian remnant in Kosovo. Whether Clinton did it to divert attention from a burgeoning sex scandal, or whether it was part of a global anti-Christian campaign by Western liberals with a cultural death-wish, the results for the Kosovo Christians – and all non-Albanians in Kosovo – are the same.
And the U.S. State Department is doing everything to make sure it stays that way, with a strong supporting role of the United Nations, Britain and Germany.

That's right, the might and the resources of U.S. diplomacy are being used to tear away a Christian European nation's spiritual and historical cradle and hand it over to a terrorist-breeding, white-slavery peddling, heroin-pushing narco-Islamic camarilla in Kosovo, which has, by all accounts, made the province into "Afghanistan in Europe." During the current U.N.-brokered talks on Kosovo's "final status," U.S. diplomats are tirelessly promoting the "necessity" and "inevitability" of Kosovo's independence.

There are well over 1,000 Christian churches and monasteries in Kosovo, many filled with priceless medieval frescoes from the Byzantine era, in which Italian art historians have spotted the beginnings of the Renaissance about a century before it appeared in Western Europe. At least 150 have been destroyed by Muslim Albanian mobs since Clinton's post-bombing deployment of NATO "peacekeepers" in 1999. The rest are menaced on a daily basis. Those that are lucky enough to be protected have armed NATO troops and barbed wire around them.

In its drive to secure Kosovo's independence from Serbia, preferably by the end of 2006, U.S. (and U.N.) diplomacy has helped install Islamic hardliners to top Kosovo political posts – people with gallons of Christian (and Roma, and moderate Albanian) blood on their hands. It has supported the revocation of international arrest warrants against them, as in the case of new Kosovo "Prime Minister," Agim Ceku, a man whom Canadian U.N. troops wounded in Croatia in 1995 to stop a killing spree against unarmed Serbian villagers in another "U.N. protected area." Ceku had an Interpol warrant against him lifted in March "in line with his new duties of prime minister." And U.S.
diplomacy brings other terrorists, such as Hashim Tachi, aka "the Snake," to Washington, D.C., as it did this January, to promote the cause of narco-Islam on Christian soil in the highest forums of American foreign policy.

Why?

It is said that more than 600 years ago, when the first news of the Battle of Kosovo came to Western Europe, telling of a victory of the Christian Serb army against the Ottoman Turks, the bells of Notre Dame cathedral in Paris rang out joyously in celebration.

Actually, this fierce battle on the Field of Blackbirds (the meaning of the name of Kosovo) ended in a draw, with both the Serbian Prince Lazar and the Turkish Sultan Murat being killed in battle. But the weakened Serbia, pressed from the north by the rival Hungarian kingdom, never recovered. It is then, as the story goes, that the bright red peonies that bloom by the millions each year on Kosovo's plains made their appearance, growing out of

the soil consecrated by the spilt Christian blood. And it wasn't only Serbian blood that would be shed in the coming centuries. It was not until combined Slavic and German forces threw back the huge army commanded by Grand Vizier Kara Mustafa Pasha at the walls of Vienna in 1683 that the tide against Ottoman Turkey began to be turned back and the Christian West could finally breathe easier.

Now, 323 years later, the West's secularized elites are doing everything to help Islam – an especially aggressive and corrupt variety of it – make a big comeback in Europe, with the United States taking the leading role.

Why?

Some say that it is because the State Department, at least the part dealing with the Balkans, is still staffed with Clinton-era secular globalists pursuing their own agenda. But this cannot be an excuse for an administration that sees itself as Christian. We know what the Bible says about pragmatism when moral issues are at hand: Better that you are hot or cold than lukewarm, for you shall be spewed out like salt that has lost its flavor. And that's the present U.S. policy in Kosovo.

To what end this "pragmatism" (if that's what it is) except straight to Hell? There is no getting around it. Jesus said, "Whoever is not with me is against me." So, what of those who actively or passively give aid to the burning of His churches on Kosovo? What sayest thou, Christian soldiers?
Where were you when Christian Kosovo burned? Did you cry real tears and help, or give aid and comfort to His enemies? Take heed, Christian
Americans: A great anti-Christian crime is currently being committed in your name on Christian Kosovo. You cannot say that you haven't been warned. Now it is up to you to do something.

You cannot in good conscience support Kosovo's independence. For that shall mean its final destruction as a Christian land. What can you do? What is the only consequent Kosovo policy for American Christian policy makers? Demand that the destruction of churches, monasteries and cemeteries stop, that anti-Christian persecution stop, that Christian Serbs and other non-Albanians be allowed to return to their ancestral homes protected by their own armed forces. Help them renew their houses of worship, which were destroyed under the "protection" of U.S.-led international troops.
You can support Kosovo's autonomy within Serbia, with equal rights for all.
But not independence for the Islamic narco-bosses running the place and their brand of anti-civilization. That's the current State Department agenda, the same as the agenda of the United Nations and European secularized, suicidal elites. That would be abomination. And, make no mistake, that would, ultimately, be the end of Christian America. For this crime will not be forgiven in the only place that counts.



Aleksandar Pavic covers the Balkans for WorldNetDaily.com.

A five part series on Yugoslavia. The Dominion (Canada)

 

 

 This is an outstanding five part series on Yugoslavia. After reading this, no one can say, "I didn't know."  

 

This link:  http://dominionpaper.ca/media_analysis/2006/03/22/peace_from.html takes you to all the series. 

 

The Dominion - Canada's Grassroots Newspaper

 

A five part series on Yugoslavia that covers the following:  

Part 1:  Milosevic the Guilty? http://dominionpaper.ca/media_analysis/2006/03/17/milosevic_.html

Part 2:  The Origins of the War in the Balkans http://dominionpaper.ca/media_analysis/2006/03/18/the_origin.html

Part 3:  The Media War http://dominionpaper.ca/media_analysis/2006/03/19/the_media_.html

Part 4:  The Good Guys http://dominionpaper.ca/media_analysis/2006/03/20/the_good_g.html

Part 5:  Peace from Above http://dominionpaper.ca/media_analysis/2006/03/22/peace_from.html

"In 1999, NATO planes dropped twenty thousand tonnes of bombs on targets in the former Yugoslavia, killing upwards of 3,000 human beings and injuring thousands more. Targets included power plants, hospitals, industrial infrastructure, schools, churches, historic sites, water and sewage facilities, apartment buildings, temporary housing for refugees, traveling refugees, the state television station, bridges, and socially-owned, worker-run factories."

Ceku must face justice

 

http://thechronicleherald.ca/Opinion/492868.html

The Halifax Herald

HALIFAX, NOVA SCOTIA | Tuesday March 28, 2006

Opinion

Ceku must face justice

By SCOTT TAYLOR / On Target

LAST WEEK, I just happened to be in Belgrade attending a conference on the future status of Kosovo when the funeral for former Serbian president Slobodan Milosevic was held.

True to form, the western media's coverage of these events presented accused war criminal Milosevic as evil incarnate and the Serbian people, by extension, as something bordering on the subhuman.

Almost entirely lost in the frenzy to heap responsibility for a decade's worth of death and destruction into Slobo's coffin was the announcement that the Albanians in Kosovo have just selected a new prime minister.

To have examined this development in the slightest would have served to spread around some of the blame and to illustrate that the Serbs certainly did not have a monopoly on war crimes during those bloody civil wars. In fact, if one only casually glances at the resume of the incoming prime minister, Agim Ceku, it becomes apparent that his election flies in the face of international justice, foreshadows more violence in Kosovo and ignores the sacrifices and valour of our Canadian Forces.

In summary, Ceku, an Albanian Kosovar by birth, began his military career as an officer in the former federal Yugoslavian army. When the initial Yugoslav breakup occurred in 1991, Ceku was quick to switch his loyalty to the Croatian cause. As a colonel in the Croatian army, Ceku commanded the notorious 1993 operation in what is known as the Medak Pocket.

It was here that the men of the 2nd Battalion of Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry came face to face with the savagery of which Ceku was capable. Over 200 Serbian inhabitants of the Medak Pocket were slaughtered in a grotesque manner (the bodies of female rape victims were found after being burned alive). Our traumatized troops who buried the grisly remains were encouraged to collect evidence and were assured that the perpetrators would be brought to justice.

Nevertheless in 1995, Ceku, by then trained by U.S. instructors as a general of artillery, was still at large. In fact, he was the officer responsible for shelling the Serbian refugee columns and for targeting the UN-declared "safe" city of Knin during the Croatian offensive known as Operation Storm. Some 500 innocent civilians perished in those merciless barrages, and senior Canadian officers who witnessed the slaughter demanded that Ceku be indicted. Once again, their pleas fell of deaf ears.

Just a few months after the Storm atrocities, Canada's own Louise Arbour began making a name for herself as the chief prosecutor for the war crimes tribunal in The Hague. Despite the Canadian connection to these alleged crimes, Arbour and her lawyers chose instead to pursue more "politically prominent" individuals such as Milosevic, and other senior Serbs, while nothing was done to bring Ceku to justice.

Fast-forward to January 1999, and the world's attention begins to focus on a war-ravaged Kosovo. With the blessing of the U.S. State Department and NATO, Ceku takes his retirement (at age 37) from the Croatian army and is pronounced supreme commander of the Kosovo Liberation Army.

Throughout the air campaign against Yugoslavia, Ceku was portrayed as a loyal ally and he was frequently present at NATO briefings with top generals such as Wesley Clark and Michael Jackson (see photo at http://www.slobodan-milosevic.org/pictures.htm).

Under the terms of the June 1999 Kosovo peace deal, Ceku's Albanian guerrillas were to be disarmed and reconstituted into a UN-sponsored (non-military) disaster relief organization known as the Kosovo Protection Corps. But despite the fact that they now collected UN paycheques, Ceku's men never gave up their guns - nor their quest for a Greater Albania

From the armed Albanian incursions into southern Serbia in 2000 - and Macedonia in 2001 - right up until the violent pogrom unleashed against Kosovo Serbs in March 2004, Ceku's brand of violence, hatred and ethnic cleansing has remained unchanged.

Now he is being hailed as a political leader, and the world is once again turning a blind eye to his crimes.

Hopefully, Canada at least will respect the eyewitness testimony of our own peacekeepers and finally insist that Ceku face the same justice that was demanded of Slobodan Milosevic.

Presenting the soldiers of the 2nd Battalion of Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry with a belated Governor General's unit citation for the Medak Pocket battle will remain a hollow gesture until Ceku is held responsible for his atrocities.

( staylor@herald.ca)

Lies and Myths about Milosevic and the Serbs

 

["I never saw the Yugoslav Federal Army mistreat anyone in Kosovo" ]

 

http://www.freenations.freeuk.com/news-2006-03-27.html

Free Nations

LIES AND MYTHS ABOUT MILOSEVIC AND THE SERBS

by Rodney Atkinson

Dateline 27th March 2006

"I never saw the Yugoslav Federal Army mistreat anyone in Kosovo" Roland Keith, Commander in the OSCE's Kosovo Verification Mission, 1999.

In the week of the death of Milosevic anti-Serb propaganda reached a peak with not a single word of praise for a people who have in all three European Wars of the 20th century proved their anti-fascist credentials. Instead it is the propaganda of Croatian fascism, German imperialism and BBC appeasement which defends the attack on Yugoslavia (illegal on at least 7 counts under international law) and its break up into the same petty nationalist states with clerical fascist governments which Nazism and Fascism constructed in the 1940s.

So the EU (under German direction) the USA and the UN conducted the most illegal war of all time, without UN approval, destroyed the most ethnically mixed State in the Balkans (Serbia) and brought about the most ethnically and religiously pure state of Croatia and a religiously divided Bosnia. The UN has failed to disarm the KLA who have now invaded Macedonia - with the weapons that the UN was supposed to remove from them! Now, having allowed the Kosovo Muslims to drive out most of the Christian Serbs from Kosovo, the UN seems bent on removing Kosovo from Serbia. This in religious and cultural terms would be like removing Kent from England or Texas from the United States, with Canterbury and Houston becoming Muslims cities!

Throughout the 1990s, the BBC, the British press and the Western media in general have lied and deceived, covered up the truth, broadcast fabrications prepared by anti Yugoslav forces, ignored historical fact and have been willing victims of one of the most successful propaganda missions of modern times. Here are some of the myths and lies which now pass for "facts" in the media today.


Milosevic "started the wars against Bosnia and Croatia"

Serbs were not the aggressors but the defenders of their internationally recognised State of Yugoslavia against foreign powers (principally Germany and the USA) who financed insurrection by Bosnian Muslims, Croatian nationalists (using the same "U" emblem as the Ustashe fascist allies of Germany during the second World War) and Kosovo Muslim Albanians. All three of these groups had provided the Nazis with Waffen SS divisions against our allies, the Serbs, between 1940 and 1945).

Milosevic was a "fascist"
He was in fact the exact opposite, his opponents in Croatia and Bosnia being the historical fascists whose 1990s actions were based on precisely the same imagery, ideology and in some cases even the names of their fascist movements during the second world war. Milosevic could be described, as the whole of Yugoslavia was during the cold war, as a "Reform Communist".

Milosevic was a dictator.
He was elected three times, with the same lack of Western democratic niceties which we praised in the election of Yeltsin and Putin!

He persecuted the Kosovo Albanians.
The exact opposite was the case for the Kosovo Liberation Army had been murdering Serbs and Albanian Kosovans for years. In this they had continued the ethnic cleansing of Serbs started by the Nazis and fascists during the Second World War and carried on by Tito (a Croat) after the war. There were Albanian Muslims in Milosevic's Government - but that did not stop the gradual ethnic cleansing of Serbs from their historic homeland (and centre of Orthodox Christianity) in Kosovo by the KLA, rightly described by international observers as a terrorist organisation.

The KLA has now invaded Macedonia, where Albanian Muslims are creating "a third Albania"!

Both the Commander of the OSCE's Kosovo Verification Mission in 1999 (just before Yugoslavia was attacked) Roland Keith and the former Canadian Ambassador in Belgrade James Bissett have condemned the war and defended the Yugoslav Government. Bissett said that the 1999 attack was a "put up job" and quotes the most revealing admission by the former British Defense Minister, Lord Gilbert, who told the British House of Commons in July 2000 that the terms that NATO sought to force upon Milosevic at Rambouillet were deliberately designed to provoke war.

Commander Keith described the KLA as a terrorist organisation which had a grip on most villages in Kosovo. He had direct experience of grotesque lies told by villagers about ethnic cleansing and he said he never saw the Yugoslav Federal Army mistreat anyone in Kosovo.

Milosevic would have been found guilty of war crimes.
In fact the trial and Milosevic's detailed and penetrating challenge to prosecution witnesses had made a complete fool of the kangaroo court which had effectively kidnapped him in Belgrade (using the same anti-constitutional methods as the European Union did to destroy the sovereignty of the nation states of Europe - Presidential or Crown Prerogative!)

Milosevic was not accused in the International Court in The Hague but by a "special Tribunal" set up by the anti Serb forces. Blair and his partners in the illegal war were indicted at the REAL International Court - but refused to turn up.

The evidence at the trial proved Milosevic's guilt.
Far from that the Court was repeatedly unable to make any connection between Milosevic's orders and the assumed "atrocities". Indeed several Serb army personnel gave evidence that Belgrade had always insisted that soldiers who committed crimes should be brought to justice. The Court case also revealed that Lord Paddy Ashdown had lied to the Court and one of the Prosecution's star witnesses exonerated Milosevic and said he had been tortured to make him provide evidence against the accused.

What about the war time atrocities?
Most were myths, the rest questionable. The Sarajevo market bomb was not set by Serbs but by Bosnian Muslims, as the UN later confirmed. The skeletonic "concentration camp" victim was a hoax, as the BBC's John Simpson confirmed. The "10,000 deaths in Kosovo" was proved a complete myth. The Srebrenica "massacre of 8,000 Muslims" consists of some 2,000 bodies including Serbs who died in battle over a long period. Teenagers among the dead were commonplace especially among Croat and Bosnian army troops. The "International Community" never describes the massacres of Serb villagers around Srebrenica before the Yugoslav army moved in, nor the evil Muslim Commander Naser Oric who, Roland Keith testifies, carried out those raids and showed journalists video tape of the beheadings he ordered. Oric withdrew his troops from Srebrenica before the Serbs arrived. His army was later caught and badly defeated - which explains the origins of the Bosnian bodies found.

What about ethnic cleansing?
Why should the leader of Yugoslavia break up his own country? Only the Croats (who drove out 400,000 Serbs from the Krajina) and the Bosnians and Kosovo Albanians (who drove out a similar number of Serbs) had a reason to do so - and they did. It was in fact the federal Prime Minister of Yugoslavia who happened to be a Croat who ordered the army into Slovenia and Croatia. And it was another Croat President Tudjman who wrote a constitution which described the Serbs as an "alien minority". He then drove 40,000 Serbs out of Croatia - the first ethnic cleansing in Yugoslavia.

What about political bigotry?
Anyone reading Milosevic's historical speeches would recognise someone who lacked political, racial or religious bigotry - unlike the extreme bigotry of his opponents President Tudjman of Croatia ("genocide is a natural phenomenon commanded by the almighty in defence of Roman Catholicism") and President Izetbegovic ("There can be no peace or co-existence between the Islamic Faith and non Islamic institutions"). So why were Izetbegovic and Tudjman not put on trial in The Hague?

In the light of such hypocrisy it is not surprising that one of the most criminal war Commanders - General Agim Ceku, who at various times fought in the Croat and KLA armies, murdered hundreds (at the Medak Pocket) and ethnically cleansed hundred of thousands of Serbs (from the Krajina) and has been indicted at The Hague, is also on the payroll of the UN in the "Kosovo Protection Force"!!!!!!

For further evidence of the massive fascist attack on Yugoslavia over the years please read the following papers - all but the first one are on this website:

The Illegality of NATO's War against Yugoslavia www.ukconservatism.freeuk.com/archive27.html

Canadian Ambassador and Kosovo Commander explode myths of Yugoslav War
www.freenations.freeuk.com/news-2004-10-14.html

John Kerry gets funds from Terrorist KLA
www.freenations.freeuk.com/news-2004-10-18.html

The Carcass of Yugoslavia
www.freenations.freeuk.com/news-2004-12-08.html

Illegal Yugoslav War a boost to Islamic Extremism
www.freenations.freeuk.com/news-2005-08-15.html

Kosovo - German Imperialism to defy UN?
www.freenations.freeuk.com/news-2005-09-03.html

The Vatican and Islam
www.freenations.freeuk.com/news-2005-10-22.html

German Nazis aided Croat Fascists in 1990s.
www.freenations.freeuk.com/news-2006-03-15.html